Towing Limits

jackba

New Member
We have a 2006 Titan 4x2 Extended Cab with tow package (no 4 wheel drive). We are shopping for a travel trailer. The published tow capacity is 9400#. The published GVWR is 6422#.



I am looking at trailers weighing 8000# loaded with a tonge weight of approx 800#. The truck would also have pax and cargo. This seems to be near the publsihed tow limit and actually exceeds the GVWC. I am concerned that this will cause problems when pulling up grades or driving in hot weather conditions.



Can anyone who has towed travel trailers at all with this model Titan share their experiences with us?



Thanks......Jack
 

Rossi

New Member
Well Jack I love my truck and I hope you love yours.



She will tow that trailer. But the hard facts are this......your tires are not rated for weight like this. You get a good deal of movement on the road due to sidewall flex. Also the truck will labor a little with that sort of weight. It can do it.....





But rigs that heavy are really meant to be pulled by diesel engines. We have good torque....but nothing like a HD truck with an oil burner. Not too mention they have tires made for the weight.



I have a TT that weights about 6500 lbs loaded. And she does a pretty good job towing....I towed from CA to South Dakota and back. Fuel economy SUCKED!!! Averaged about 7-8 mpg. I could not imagine pulling a heavier load especially because of the tires.
 

krh2

Administrator
My TT is around 6,400 fully loaded. Like Rossi said some LT tires with maybe an E rating will be needed. With the WD hitch and air bags it tows my TT like a charm. You may want to check out rv.net forums they have some real towing gurus over there. Welcome to the spot! <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/006.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt005' />
 

jackba

New Member
[quote name='Rossi' post='119840' date='Jan 14 2008, 08:35 AM']Well Jack I love my truck and I hope you love yours.



She will tow that trailer. But the hard facts are this......your tires are not rated for weight like this. You get a good deal of movement on the road due to sidewall flex. Also the truck will labor a little with that sort of weight. It can do it.....





But rigs that heavy are really meant to be pulled by diesel engines. We have good torque....but nothing like a HD truck with an oil burner. Not too mention they have tires made for the weight.



I have a TT that weights about 6500 lbs loaded. And she does a pretty good job towing....I towed from CA to South Dakota and back. Fuel economy SUCKED!!! Averaged about 7-8 mpg. I could not imagine pulling a heavier load especially because of the tires.[/quote]
 

jackba

New Member
[quote name='Rossi' post='119840' date='Jan 14 2008, 08:35 AM']Well Jack I love my truck and I hope you love yours.



She will tow that trailer. But the hard facts are this......your tires are not rated for weight like this. You get a good deal of movement on the road due to sidewall flex. Also the truck will labor a little with that sort of weight. It can do it.....





But rigs that heavy are really meant to be pulled by diesel engines. We have good torque....but nothing like a HD truck with an oil burner. Not too mention they have tires made for the weight.



I have a TT that weights about 6500 lbs loaded. And she does a pretty good job towing....I towed from CA to South Dakota and back. Fuel economy SUCKED!!! Averaged about 7-8 mpg. I could not imagine pulling a heavier load especially because of the tires.[/quote]
 

adamdude04

New Member
yeah MPG suck!!



But for the Titan, when I had mine, sucker had a lot of power. And I sometimes hauled some heavy gravel/dirt loads in the bed of the truck and it actually did pretty dang good. It will suck though with that much weight..but at least its just for a week or two..not every single day.
 

jackba

New Member
[quote name='krh2' post='119843' date='Jan 14 2008, 09:57 AM']My TT is around 6,400 fully loaded. Like Rossi said some LT tires with maybe an E rating will be needed. With the WD hitch and air bags it tows my TT like a charm. You may want to check out rv.net forums they have some real towing gurus over there. Welcome to the spot! <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/006.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt005' />[/quote]
 

jackba

New Member
Dear krh2"

Thank you for the reply and suggestions. I will check out that site right away.



I do have a dumb question about your comment about "Air bags". Are you referring to those in the dash of the truck?- or some other applicaiton having to do with the trailier?



Best.......Jack
 

jackba

New Member
Mr. Rossi

Thanks for your comments. That is precisely the kind of information that I was seeking.



I do have a question however. I have P265/70R18 tires (factory installed). Are those the type that you say will ahve a problem with a load like the one I suggested?

Also, another user suggested that I consider "LT" tires with an "E" rating. Can you explain what that means? I know little abouyt ruck tires.



Thanks again - in advance........Jack
 

krh2

Administrator
[quote name='jackba' post='119854' date='Jan 14 2008, 11:35 AM']Dear krh2"

Thank you for the reply and suggestions. I will check out that site right away.



I do have a dumb question about your comment about "Air bags". Are you referring to those in the dash of the truck?- or some other applicaiton having to do with the trailier?



Best.......Jack[/quote]



I put in ride right airbags. They sit on top of the leaf springs and give added lift. With my WD hitch on, the rear of my truck sat an inch lower than the front. Mechanically sound I didnt like the squat look. Not to mention it got even lower when coolers, firewood,etc.. were added to the bed. So now I hook up and it takes about 40 psi to level the truck out.



Here is the write up. Long read because the first bags I put on where the wrong ones.



http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/index.php?a...icle&id=183
 

krh2

Administrator
[quote name='jackba' post='119856' date='Jan 14 2008, 11:41 AM']Mr. Rossi

Thanks for your comments. That is precisely the kind of information that I was seeking.



I do have a question however. I have P265/70R18 tires (factory installed). Are those the type that you say will ahve a problem with a load like the one I suggested?

Also, another user suggested that I consider "LT" tires with an "E" rating. Can you explain what that means? I know little abouyt ruck tires.



Thanks again - in advance........Jack[/quote]



I think the stock tires are "B" rated. "C" rated tires would be good. My Michelen's are "B" rated but I dont worry too much about it as I prettty much camp locally. You could even go with an "E" rated LT tire but the ride would be harsh. BTW, A-E ratings are just weight limits on the tires. "E" rated tires have a 10 ply sidewall they can carry a lot of weight but ride horrible. Hope all that makes sense.
 

hudsonvalleytitan

New Member
My TT is around 8500 LBS loaded up and I tow it with my fully stock 08 CC PRO4X LWB with no issues at all. In fact, I towed it with my 04 CC SE SWB with good result except that the longer wheelbase truck handles sway far better. I'm sure airbags, sway bars etc would help but I can actually forget it's back there at times.
 

krh2

Administrator
[quote name='hudsonvalleytitan' post='148531' date='Jun 2 2009, 06:38 PM']My TT is around 8500 LBS loaded up and I tow it with my fully stock 08 CC PRO4X LWB with no issues at all. In fact, I towed it with my 04 CC SE SWB with good result except that the longer wheelbase truck handles sway far better. I'm sure airbags, sway bars etc would help but I can actually forget it's back there at times.[/quote]



Air bags and E rated Michelin LTX AT2 tires really made a difference for me... Remember, better late than not getting there at all. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />
 

krh2

Administrator
[quote name='hudsonvalleytitan' post='148557' date='Jun 2 2009, 09:12 PM']Very true! I will upgrade the tires when the time comes.[/quote]





E rated tires ride like a truck vs my old Cross Terrains. But...... They are much more stable / safe towing our weights.. Plus they just look dang sweet.... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />
 
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