Spark plug change

swarren1

New Member
[quote name='honeykeeper' date='14 September 2009 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1252978477' post='152901']

6.5 qts, always and no more........if you let other people service your Titan they will want to fill to the upper mark on the dipstick and that isn't good.....did you?

[/quote]Always have used 7 quarts, and the level is between 1/2 to 3/4 when warm, using a Nissan filter. I was curious about Matt's use since he said he had oil on all of his plugs, and now that I've thought about it, what filter he uses, since the capacities may differ somewhat.
 

ttammunek04

New Member
[quote name='swarren1' date='14 September 2009 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1252987166' post='152929']

Always have used 7 quarts, and the level is between 1/2 to 3/4 when warm, using a Nissan filter. I was curious about Matt's use since he said he had oil on all of his plugs, and now that I've thought about it, what filter he uses, since the capacities may differ somewhat.

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I usually add about 7 quarts. And I use the Fram tough guard oil filter.
 

swarren1

New Member
Maybe it is too much oil then ... that's better than some of the other causes.

From now own I think I'll be using 6.5 quarts, based upon what I read about too much oil fouling plugs, plus honeykeeper's concern, (as long as it is at least above the low mark on my Titan's dipstick). But I'll need to monitor it more often to make sure it doesn't drop below, as there will be less of a reserve.
 

honeykeeper

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[quote name='swarren1' date='15 September 2009 - 11:18 AM' timestamp='1253024300' post='152943']

Maybe it is too much oil then ... that's better than some of the other causes.

From now own I think I'll be using 6.5 quarts, based upon what I read about too much oil fouling plugs, plus honeykeeper's concern, (as long as it is at least above the low mark on my Titan's dipstick). But I'll need to monitor it more often to make sure it doesn't drop below, as there will be less of a reserve. [/quote]

In between oil changes the level doesn't go down on my Titan.....and that's with 7,500 intervals. I also highly recommend the Amsoil 0-30W series oil....the Titan likes thinner oil and I've had no problems with engine or plugs with it.





Hey did you check/clean the pcv valves when you changed the oil??????????????? <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/017.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt013' />



Too high oil level will cause lower oil pressure, the crankshaft churning up the extra oil in the crankcase will cause the oil to get foamy and full of air bubbles, air bubbles do not pass through bearings well, and would cause less oil to reach the top of the engine, thus resulting in lower oil pressure, and worn upper engine components and failed bearings. Also the resistance of the oil on the crankshaft is going to lower engine output. Not a lot of the extra oil is going to blow back past the rings either. Most of the oil is going to take the easiest way out which is out of the crankcase through the PCV system and end up going back to the air filter housing or intake manifold, that is where you get your smoke, from the PCV system recycling the crankcase gases, and all of the extra oil.
 

honeykeeper

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[quote name='swarren1' date='15 September 2009 - 11:18 AM' timestamp='1253024300' post='152943']

Maybe it is too much oil then ... that's better than some of the other causes.

From now own I think I'll be using 6.5 quarts, based upon what I read about too much oil fouling plugs, plus honeykeeper's concern, (as long as it is at least above the low mark on my Titan's dipstick). But I'll need to monitor it more often to make sure it doesn't drop below, as there will be less of a reserve. [/quote]

In between oil changes the level doesn't go down on my Titan.....and that's with 7,500 intervals. I also highly recommend the Amsoil 0-30W series oil....the Titan likes thinner oil and I've had no problems with engine or plugs with it.
 

swarren1

New Member
[quote name='honeykeeper' date='15 September 2009 - 07:37 AM' timestamp='1253025452' post='152945']

In between oil changes the level doesn't go down on my Titan.....and that's with 7,500 intervals. I also highly recommend the Amsoil 0-30W series oil....the Titan likes thinner oil and I've had no problems with engine or plugs with it.





Hey did you check/clean the pcv valves when you changed the oil??????????????? <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/017.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />



Too high oil level will cause lower oil pressure, the crankshaft churning up the extra oil in the crankcase will cause the oil to get foamy and full of air bubbles, air bubbles do not pass through bearings well, and would cause less oil to reach the top of the engine, thus resulting in lower oil pressure, and worn upper engine components and failed bearings. Also the resistance of the oil on the crankshaft is going to lower engine output. Not a lot of the extra oil is going to blow back past the rings either. Most of the oil is going to take the easiest way out which is out of the crankcase through the PCV system and end up going back to the air filter housing or intake manifold, that is where you get your smoke, from the PCV system recycling the crankcase gases, and all of the extra oil.

[/quote]O.k. so it looks like you quoted another post of yours. I was wondering why you thought my Titan smokes ... it doesn't, nor does it burn any measurable oil between changes. As for the PCV valves, I think that will be next on the list. I saw the recent write up. I might try the carb cleaner because I already have some and it was stored inside so is probably still good. That reminds me I need to check it.
 

honeykeeper

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[quote name='swarren1' date='15 September 2009 - 11:03 PM' timestamp='1253066629' post='152969']

O.k. so it looks like you quoted another post of yours. I was wondering why you thought my Titan smokes ... it doesn't, nor does it burn any measurable oil between changes. As for the PCV valves, I think that will be next on the list. I saw the recent write up. I might try the carb cleaner because I already have some and it was stored inside so is probably still good. That reminds me I need to check it.

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I didn't mean your Titan smoked oil.......it can happen from overfilling the oil.

My pcv valves were clogged..no rattle........if you clean them be sure to spray out the tubes too.
 

Jbws68

Active Member
So how much money did I save ???? I am cussing you Kev and HK !!! YUK YUK !!!! Took me 2 hours on the dot !!! Facing the truck on the left side, the 3rd plug in gave me the most trouble. Didn't have to move any wire harness. truck is running smooth and will check gas coming up. Do this with the engine cold. Those folks at Nissan know how to torque a plug !!! I used the fusion IR.



I was so inspired that the rider is now full synthetic. Didn't think I should have to do the mower in M1 but what the heck !!! Changed that plug and used the boot and thread gels !!! I know I will have to change those plugs every year !!!



All in all, eat your wheaties and have plenty of paper towels for the gels !!!
 

krh2

Administrator
[quote name='Jbws68' date='04 April 2010 - 04:58 PM' timestamp='1270425498' post='156553']

So how much money did I save ???? I am cussing you Kev and HK !!! YUK YUK !!!! Took me 2 hours on the dot !!! Facing the truck on the left side, the 3rd plug in gave me the most trouble. Didn't have to move any wire harness. truck is running smooth and will check gas coming up. Do this with the engine cold. Those folks at Nissan know how to torque a plug !!! I used the fusion IR.



I was so inspired that the rider is now full synthetic. Didn't think I should have to do the mower in M1 but what the heck !!! Changed that plug and used the boot and thread gels !!! I know I will have to change those plugs every year !!!



All in all, eat your wheaties and have plenty of paper towels for the gels !!!

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Fun Lil project no? Jeff? <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/001.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt002' />
 

krh2

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[quote name='Jbws68' date='04 April 2010 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1270434659' post='156561']

If you are a contortionist !!!!!! Will do the pcv's tomorrow or Tuesday!!!

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Well, I'm a strapping 5' 10" 165 lb contortunist.. Ya, sore the next day and nicely decorated knuckles.. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt003' />
 

EdP

New Member
Adjusting spark plug gap. Platinum and titanium spark plug gaps can be carefully adjusted, and directions are on box plugs come in. The saleperson where I bought the plugs said plugs were pre-gapped and didn't require checking or gapping. I checked, they were way off of spec. That's when we looked at plug container and it said to carefully adjust gap. I did so without problem. I would suggest always checking gap before installing new plugs, regardless of type. I would also suggest reading box if an adjustment is necessary. Some may say not to adjust, but this doesn't make much sense. Most plugs are used on a wide variety of vehicles and it's highly unlikely that every one of them has the same gap requirement, so someone is going to need to adjust the gap. Other than hypercars and/or hypermotors, I can't think of any plug that is specific to one vehicle and engine type. If that were the case, every auto part store would have to have a second store next to it selling spark plugs only. Check the gap, check instructions on plug box if a change is necessary, and follow them. If the gap is too far off, it may cost alot more than a spark plug in the long run. Again, follow the directions, but I have changed the gap on platinum plugs without problem, by following manufactures instructions. There may be types of plugs that the gap cannot be adjusted, but this is largely a myth that has perpetuated itself all the way to behing the counter of auto part suppliers. You can do it !
 

Outlaw_9

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Went pretty much exactly like you outlined it (even down to taping the extension), took me a bit longer, but that's no big deal.  Thanks for all the details!
 

krh2

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Went pretty much exactly like you outlined it (even down to taping the extension), took me a bit longer, but that's no big deal.  Thanks for all the details!

Glad it all worked out ?
 

10'Titantic

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You guys are the best! I have found 3 different solutions to problems I'm having just scrolling through. I signed on for a plug verification and after reading about oil, PCV valves and air filters...... Looks like my whole wednesday is gonna be fixing problems I caused by not reading here first. Thanks again
 

honeykeeper

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Hi Kev.,


Do you still have your Titan and these plugs? Just checking in.


Do you still have my cell#? Long time no hear!


Cheers...Tom
 

krh2

Administrator
I do Tom. In fact I just put a second set in when I put headers on. ? I don't have your cell number anymore I just looked. Pm it to me. I'd love to chat been too long brudda.
 

honeykeeper

New Member
Hi Kev.,


Is your cell still the same? I will give you a call if so.

I'm still on my first plug changeout....Bosch plugs are fine.


Cheers...Tom
 
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