Mag-hytec Diff Covers

krh2

Administrator
[quote name='honeykeeper' post='138851' date='Jan 23 2009, 04:58 PM']I too will be adding more fluid. Probably go with the mid-mark next.



Did you mount stain(s)less steel washers behind your oem steel brake cable bracket to isolate the steel from the aluminium cover? <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/009.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt003' />[/quote]



I dont think I did. I'll check tomorrow and correct. Thanks.... Gonna move the brake line and use hose clamps to secure it too. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt002' />
 

krh2

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[quote name='krh2' post='138852' date='Jan 23 2009, 05:12 PM']Gonna move the brake line and use hose clamps to secure it too. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt002' />[/quote]



Dang, I have a really cool idea for this.. Just wait... Hope is works out.... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt003' /> <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt020' />
 

honeykeeper

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[quote name='krh2' post='138866' date='Jan 24 2009, 02:02 AM']Dang, I have a really cool idea for this.. Just wait... Hope is works out.... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt002' /> <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt003' />[/quote]



I do too!....... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt020' />
 

honeykeeper

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Here's my latest notes.. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt003' /> :



1- The "oil reference port plug" on the Mag-Hytec cover is just that.

2- The high/low level marks on the dip stick is the range Mag-Hytec designed so increased oil is able to reduce the temp. in the differential/gears.

3- Mag-Hytec recommends the axle shafts be bathed in oil.

4- If the breather spills oil lower the level until it stops and use it that way for maximum protection and mark the stick to what works on your individual truck.

5- No specific volume/answer will work so there's some trial filling until spillage occurs if maximum oil is desired.

6- A device to secure the brake oil line (like on the OEM cover) will need to be fabricated/installed to allow easy access to the fill plug/dipstick.

7- Installing stain(s)less steel "isolator washers" between the steel brake cable bracket (or any other bracket) and the aluminium cover will prevent/reduce oxidation from occuring between the two dissimilar metals to protect the cover.



Note:

Using ~3 qts. of oil will allow for a ~50% increase in oil/protection
(over the OEM aluminium finned cover) which is probably enough for most Non-Service use Titans.

Using ~4-4.50 qts. will allow for a ~100% increase in oil/protection (over the OEM aluminium finned cover) which is best for Towing and Service use Titans.



Interesting on the front differential the fill plug/full level is high in the housing allowing for complete oil submersion of the axles unlike the rear OEM differential oil level?!.. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt020' /> <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/017.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt002' />
 

mcginkleschmidt

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I ended up putting a total of 4 quarts of Amsoil diff lube in my Titan with the True-Trac and Mag-Hytec diff cover. The 4 quarts of lube brought my level to about 1/8 inch below the lower line on the dipstick. I saw the lube level on the dipstick immediately after removal and I made a mental note of the mark on the dipstick and even took a photo, but the oil level on the dipstick was barely discernable so I didn't bother to post the picture.



I've used four of the five quarts that I purchased of Amsoil 75W-140 Severe Gear diff lube so I just keep the last quart in reserve. In a few months I will probably remove the diff cover to check on the status and wear-pattern of the True-Trac and I will need to drain and refill with fresh lube at that time. That should flush any wear metal particle that are present at the same time.



I guess I should be buying some more Amsoil diff lube during the discount buying opportunity from VA06TITAN. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />
 

krh2

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Ok, went to make my Mag-Hytech cover even better today…



Bought a 3-5” SS hose clamp painted it flat black and drilled 2 holes in it to accept a zip tie..











Diff cover and brake line before:







OEM brake line clamps:







Got my washers in the right orientation:











Put hose clamp on and zip tied my brake line in place.. Loose but stable….















Cut off extra clamp…







I added a ½ QT of oil to the rear diff. Pulled my axle vent and stuck a stick down the hole. Hit the axle…… No oil.







After adding the ½ QT still no oil above the axle… I think I am good to go….







Some random pics...











Decided to check out my tranny mount.. A coupla WOT starts from stop today and no noise… Here are some pics of it.. Looks to be ok..























Couldn’t resist…. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />















Oh, I took one for the team and ruined my favorite shirt.. When I was squeezing the bottle of Mobile1 It cracked and shot diff oil all over my shirt and jeans… Now my shirt is ruined and smells real good. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt010' /> <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/012.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt010' />



 

mcginkleschmidt

Active Member
Where did you get that hat? I want one. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />



Good job there krh2 in securing the brake line. Was there any reason you disconnected the line from the bendable tabs on the axle housing?



I'll bet you could soak that T-shirt in some Simple Green solution to remove the oil and smell and it would be like new again. It's worth a try.
 

krh2

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[quote name='mcginkleschmidt' post='138903' date='Jan 24 2009, 05:26 PM']Where did you get that hat? I want one. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt017' />



Good job there krh2 in securing the brake line. Was there any reason you disconnected the line from the bendable tabs on the axle housing?



I'll bet you could soak that T-shirt in some Simple Green solution to remove the oil and smell and it would be like new again. It's worth a try.[/quote]



[quote name='mcginkleschmidt' post='138903' date='Jan 24 2009, 05:26 PM']Where did you get that hat? I want one. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt010' />[/quote]



Had 2 custom made... $20 each... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt003' />



[quote name='mcginkleschmidt' post='138903' date='Jan 24 2009, 05:26 PM']Good job there krh2 in securing the brake line. Was there any reason you disconnected the line from the bendable tabs on the axle housing?[/quote]



Yep, if you dont the brake line will not move and you risk "breaking" iit...



Simple Green dont even compare to "Oil Eater" I will try both or buy another shirt... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt010' />
 

Sftail1990

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Well I guess you folks are campin out in front of my house, I have had my TT in for I guess couple of months, not much driving it though, maybe 3K at the most and I think that is high. I have the axle vent mod on mine too, well she is belching some AMSOIL on the ground I saw the other day when I got in it. I ain't messin with it anymore till next trip home. The port in the center of the cover is supposed to be the fill to port, mark the dipstick there. Mine is goin back in the shop in about ten days, I want the cover pulled to inspect the TT bolts and to make sure all is well, too damn cold to do anything outside, 7 degrees today searching for a potential leak till I found it pumped it up the vent. I will describe it in greater detail when she comes out of the shop next trip home. I have a few theories too in the cold weather with it too.
 

krh2

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[quote name='Sftail1990' post='138921' date='Jan 24 2009, 10:35 PM']Well I guess you folks are campin out in front of my house, I have had my TT in for I guess couple of months, not much driving it though, maybe 3K at the most and I think that is high. I have the axle vent mod on mine too, well she is belching some AMSOIL on the ground I saw the other day when I got in it. I ain't messin with it anymore till next trip home. The port in the center of the cover is supposed to be the fill to port, mark the dipstick there. Mine is goin back in the shop in about ten days, I want the cover pulled to inspect the TT bolts and to make sure all is well, too damn cold to do anything outside, 7 degrees today searching for a potential leak till I found it pumped it up the vent. I will describe it in greater detail when she comes out of the shop next trip home. I have a few theories too in the cold weather with it too.[/quote]



Oil purging through your axle vent mod? What? That is a long way to travel....
 

honeykeeper

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Leaking Axle-Vent mods?... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/005.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt005' /> Say it ain't so! <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/005.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt005' /> Mine hasn't leaked......yet! <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/009.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt009' /> <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/009.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt009' />



I'm going to have to look at the final vent location behind the light lense again for starters. There is a possiblility that :

1- When driving with lights on for many hours if the vent is in a hot area due to close proximity to the light bulbs in the tail-light it could act like an "ear-candle" and draw the oil up with a vacum from the heated vent/end. As the fluid heats up in the differential it's easier to draw the oil up further/faster to the vent.

2- Possibly something is plugging up the vent tubes causing increased pressure and fluid to emit out of the vent/end for some folks? That's an easy one to fix with compressed air.... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/001.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />

Ear candles do get plugged and require cleaning out while in use if they are pulling a lot of debris up.

3- Wind pressure from the unsealed vent location could create more negative vacum pressure at hiway speeds....just another theory <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' /> <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' />



Yes I have used ear candles and they are impressive for removing excess wax and debris in the outer ear canal.
 

mcginkleschmidt

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[quote name='krh2' post='138906' date='Jan 24 2009, 11:50 PM']Simple Green dont even compare to "Oil Eater" I will try both or buy another shirt... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />[/quote]



I had never before heard of Oil Eater so I did a little searching and found the following. According to their MSDS, Simple Green and Oil Eater are similar in one way in that their active ingredient both contain 2-Butoxyethanol, <4% in Simple Green and <5% in Oil Eater.



Additionally, Oil Eater contains sodium metasilicate(<5%), a highly alkaline ingredient that registers a pH of 13 in as little as a 1% solution. Caution should be used with applying sodium metasilicate as it can etch glass and metals such as aluminum.



Additionally, I found that sodium metasilicate is one of the new TSP (trisodium phosphate) substitutes. The use of TSP has been discouraged because it contains phosphates that promote algae grow and are not considered good for the environment because it fouls waterways. Many times cleaners that are labeled as TSP are actually only 50% or less TSP combined with other cleaners to reduce the environmental impact.



Inquiring minds want to know. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' />



Sorry 'bout the jack Kev. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/005.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' />
 

honeykeeper

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krh2

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[quote name='honeykeeper' post='138965' date='Jan 25 2009, 04:13 PM']I finished securing the brake line today....went with the OEM look..... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/004.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt005' /> . <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/001.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />[/quote]



You just had to one up me... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' /> What did you use? I like that much better. Just send me one of whatever it is.. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' />
 

honeykeeper

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[quote name='krh2' post='138967' date='Jan 25 2009, 08:21 PM']You just had to one up me... <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' /> What did you use? I like that much better. Just send me one of whatever it is.. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/002.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />[/quote]



I re-used the brake line clip off the OEM cover. Probably available at a car parts store or brake shop.
 

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mcginkleschmidt

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My first instinct would have been to use the part from the former diff cover. I really didn't put that much thought into my cover since I was having the shop do a free install with the new Mag-Hytec cover rather re-installing the old Titan steel diff cover. The shop returned the old diff cover to me but I don't know if the brake line clip was discarded or is in the box with the returned parts. I'll have to check.



I assume you backed out the Allen screw, inserted the clip onto the screw, reinstalled Allen screw and then torqued to 12-15 ft. lbs. Since you are loosening the Allen screw at the cover top, there is no concern about dripping fluid.



Looks good Keeper. That using your noggin. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />
 

krh2

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[quote name='mcginkleschmidt' post='138974' date='Jan 25 2009, 05:21 PM']My first instinct would have been to use the part from the former diff cover. I really didn't put that much thought into my cover since I was having the shop do a free install with the new Mag-Hytec cover rather re-installing the old Titan steel diff cover. The shop returned the old diff cover to me but I don't know if the brake line clip was discarded or is in the box with the returned parts. I'll have to check.



I assume you backed out the Allen screw, inserted the clip onto the screw, reinstalled Allen screw and then torqued to 12-15 ft. lbs. Since you are loosening the Allen screw at the cover top, there is no concern about dripping fluid.



Looks good Keeper. That using your noggin. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />[/quote]



Just get it snug, no leaky. But let me save you the trouble.





























































SEND IT TO ME! <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' />
 

honeykeeper

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[quote name='mcginkleschmidt' post='138974' date='Jan 25 2009, 09:21 PM']My first instinct would have been to use the part from the former diff cover. I really didn't put that much thought into my cover since I was having the shop do a free install with the new Mag-Hytec cover rather re-installing the old Titan steel diff cover. The shop returned the old diff cover to me but I don't know if the brake line clip was discarded or is in the box with the returned parts. I'll have to check.



I assume you backed out the Allen screw, inserted the clip onto the screw, reinstalled Allen screw and then torqued to 12-15 ft. lbs. Since you are loosening the Allen screw at the cover top, there is no concern about dripping fluid.



Looks good Keeper. That using your noggin. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/023.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt001' />[/quote]



I had to redrill/enlarge the screw hole in the oem clip larger with a countersink to fit the diameter of the allen screw. Not much meat after enlarging so getting a heavier duty clip would be fine.

I added a stain(s)less steel isolation washer behind the clip mount like on the steel brake cable mount.

Didn't add any oil yet. All of the allen screws needed more torque.

Thanks~!.. <img src='http://www.titanspot.com/Titan/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/003.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smt004' />
 
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